Now your computer case smells like a burnt Estes rocket engine for a very long time like forever. How is that going to work out for all the prissy "my black case" fanatics who squeal over a scratch or some paint job anomaly ? LOL -SMELL HOW BADLY AMD SUCKS.
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Sad, and it doesn't even have a cam attached that videos the launch.
So this is for the children in charge to have some sort of kiddie life flashback, or apparently pay off some fanboy builder who no one knows, or all the above and then some.
WHERE'S THE CAM ? HOW ABOUT A TRACKING CAM FOR CRIPES SAKES !
a LAUNCH ARM CAM a few feet back from the two open tubes...
They may be losing money but their cpu's are fairly good. Looking at the internals of that setup the mb/cpu combo cost's aproximately $210.. which is the same price for a i5 cpu by itself. Hell you even get GPU power that's substantially faster than anything Intel has so your not going to be spending a extra $60-70 on a budget card.
The A10 and i5 are not remotely comparable performance wise. You can easily build an Intel system for the same price with better CPU performance and very close GPU performance.
AMD's problem is that their value proposition needs to solidly beat Intel for them to actually sell systems. They need to be 20% or more below Intel's competitive offerings. For example the A10-5800 is competitive with a low-end i3 like the 3220 but if you check Newegg the price difference is 0%, they're both $129 (as I post this). AMD can only really win if they undercut Intel's prices, not match. If given a choice almost everyone picks Intel because they have a better track record for reliability and compatibility.
"If given a choice almost everyone picks Intel because they have a better track record for reliability and compatibility. "
Your argument was fairly good, then you went and closed it out with an asinine statement.
People pick Intel, because of brand recognition/loyalty,superior marketing, and superior performance.
10 years ago, approximately, it took a superior performance AMD to even get enough market penetration to make an impact, and now they have brand recognition as well. But most people still know Intel, and Pentium more than AMD and Athlon, or Phenom, or any number of other names they have.
Intel has a better record for overall platform compatibility and reliability. This isn't something to be disagreed with because it is not an opinion.
I used AMD from the original slot-based Athlon (my friend, Mark Sorensen, invented the first "GFD" Athlon overclocker, even; got an exclusive Anandtech article) to the Athlon 64.
Then, their products were superior enough in price/performance to overcome resistance due to their reputation, which was far worse then (from K6 days) than now.
Intel again has the better overall product, other than perhaps for embarrassingly threaded or multi-process (like Apache) software. Best tool for the job...
You start out with the argument "Intel has a better record for overall platform compatibility and reliability. This isn't something to be disagreed with because it is not an opinion."
Then you provide NOTHING to back it up. Im challenging this notion that Intel is more reliable and compatible Intel had plenty of chipset/socket snafus.
On top of it all you seem to employ a sorta appeal to authority by mentioning Mark Sorensen; does he support your OPINION? Why bring his name up?
"Low-end" i3 3220 is competitive with A10-5800? Sry, that's complete retard thinking and delusional. A10-5800K trounces i3 3220 in every single GPU based application, especially games. Maybe i3 is faster in outdated singlethreaded apps like Super Pi. But, who cares? Modern systems need multitasking and graphics performance. And A10 offers more for both. Again, AMD offers more value. It's much easier to build an AMD system with similar performance for less money or more performance for the same price than vice versa. Not to forget, A10-5800K is easy to overclock due to the unlocked multiplier.
The 5800K will give almost everyone enough CPU performance they'd want. The key differentiator is an integrated GPU capable of gaming, not something you can say about Intel's iGPUs. AMD also wraps a usable gaming platform in one *simple* and affordable package. The lack of need for an additional graphics card considerably simplifies things for some markets.
''for some market'' is quite an understatement. I'd say 90%+ of computer users don't need much, mainly do facebook/twitter/youtube/online flash games/other games that doesn't require much cpu/gpu power.
Yawn. Thank you captain obvious, that might have been news two years ago. Meanwhile in 2013, AMD has launched Vishera, which are great for the money and more than makeup for Bulldozer's gaming performance. The next generation of consoles will now feature 8 core AMD APUs, so developers will be working with AMD and god help us more/better multi-threaded games, and this is a run-on sentence.
YOU should come back to reality. AMD made profits in the last years and decreased debts. The last 2 quarters are not everything. Bulldozer and Bobcat are great architectures. Better than the old and boring stuff the competition has to offer. Bulldozer just needs some improvements. Which isn't unnatural for an architecture from the ground up.
So what does the PC actually do? If the launch controls and displays are all running off custom PCBs? You could do this for 1/10 the price and power consumption on a RasPi and still have it be a full PC! Imagine a PC that sets off fireworks when you win your games. Superb.
Reminds me of when AMD hired Bill Owen to make a case for the phenom processor line launch. A solid marketing move IMO, draws more attention to their booth at shows and helps build a relationship between AMD and the enthusiast crowd. It may not make them more profitable, but it makes people as a bit less of an anonymous giant.
Bit of fun marketing. Not sure why people are so busy pissing on it. That said - niche use, and quite obviously a different design... if you've ever looked into amateur (MUCH more involved - and expensive - than model) rocketry, I could see taking ideas from this into an actual single unit - especially if you've got data coming down from the rocket itself. I'd have to agree that the custom PCB controlling the launch and such makes this less a "PC mod" than "A PC attached to something that can launch small rockets," though.
When I was a kid all you needed was a motorcycle battery, some wire, a 6v light bulb, and single pole keyswitch and a SPST momentary pushbutton switch, and you had a rocket launching system, and we LIKED it!
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Mayuyu - Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - link
RidiculousMonkeyPaw - Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - link
It's called marketing.CeriseCogburn - Saturday, March 9, 2013 - link
Now your computer case smells like a burnt Estes rocket engine for a very long time like forever.How is that going to work out for all the prissy "my black case" fanatics who squeal over a scratch or some paint job anomaly ?
LOL -SMELL HOW BADLY AMD SUCKS.
Galidou - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - link
Featuring AMD's top hater for a second year in a row, CeriseCogburn. Stay tuned for some original comments, full fledged opinions, interesting discussions and so on. Don't stop to intertain us with your well mannered comments filled with CAPS where it counts.paul878 - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
DesperationCeriseCogburn - Saturday, March 9, 2013 - link
Sad, and it doesn't even have a cam attached that videos the launch.So this is for the children in charge to have some sort of kiddie life flashback, or apparently pay off some fanboy builder who no one knows, or all the above and then some.
WHERE'S THE CAM ? HOW ABOUT A TRACKING CAM FOR CRIPES SAKES !
a LAUNCH ARM CAM a few feet back from the two open tubes...
Wreckage - Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - link
Rocket goes up....AMD stock goes down.Seriously who is left running that place?
Robenger - Tuesday, March 5, 2013 - link
Don't be clown. They are powering all of next gen consoles plus are making great strides everywhere else.B3an - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
Meanwhile back in reality AMD are losing money year over year, cutting jobs and making bad CPU's (Bulldozer).just4U - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
They may be losing money but their cpu's are fairly good. Looking at the internals of that setup the mb/cpu combo cost's aproximately $210.. which is the same price for a i5 cpu by itself. Hell you even get GPU power that's substantially faster than anything Intel has so your not going to be spending a extra $60-70 on a budget card.Flunk - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
The A10 and i5 are not remotely comparable performance wise. You can easily build an Intel system for the same price with better CPU performance and very close GPU performance.AMD's problem is that their value proposition needs to solidly beat Intel for them to actually sell systems. They need to be 20% or more below Intel's competitive offerings. For example the A10-5800 is competitive with a low-end i3 like the 3220 but if you check Newegg the price difference is 0%, they're both $129 (as I post this). AMD can only really win if they undercut Intel's prices, not match. If given a choice almost everyone picks Intel because they have a better track record for reliability and compatibility.
SilthDraeth - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
"If given a choice almost everyone picks Intel because they have a better track record for reliability and compatibility. "Your argument was fairly good, then you went and closed it out with an asinine statement.
People pick Intel, because of brand recognition/loyalty,superior marketing, and superior performance.
10 years ago, approximately, it took a superior performance AMD to even get enough market penetration to make an impact, and now they have brand recognition as well. But most people still know Intel, and Pentium more than AMD and Athlon, or Phenom, or any number of other names they have.
Sivar - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
I agree with his asinine statement.Intel has a better record for overall platform compatibility and reliability. This isn't something to be disagreed with because it is not an opinion.
I used AMD from the original slot-based Athlon (my friend, Mark Sorensen, invented the first "GFD" Athlon overclocker, even; got an exclusive Anandtech article) to the Athlon 64.
Then, their products were superior enough in price/performance to overcome resistance due to their reputation, which was far worse then (from K6 days) than now.
Intel again has the better overall product, other than perhaps for embarrassingly threaded or multi-process (like Apache) software.
Best tool for the job...
SlyNine - Friday, March 8, 2013 - link
You start out with the argument "Intel has a better record for overall platform compatibility and reliability. This isn't something to be disagreed with because it is not an opinion."Then you provide NOTHING to back it up. Im challenging this notion that Intel is more reliable and compatible Intel had plenty of chipset/socket snafus.
On top of it all you seem to employ a sorta appeal to authority by mentioning Mark Sorensen; does he support your OPINION? Why bring his name up?
gruffi - Thursday, March 7, 2013 - link
"Low-end" i3 3220 is competitive with A10-5800? Sry, that's complete retard thinking and delusional. A10-5800K trounces i3 3220 in every single GPU based application, especially games. Maybe i3 is faster in outdated singlethreaded apps like Super Pi. But, who cares? Modern systems need multitasking and graphics performance. And A10 offers more for both. Again, AMD offers more value. It's much easier to build an AMD system with similar performance for less money or more performance for the same price than vice versa. Not to forget, A10-5800K is easy to overclock due to the unlocked multiplier.johnny_boy - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - link
The 5800K will give almost everyone enough CPU performance they'd want. The key differentiator is an integrated GPU capable of gaming, not something you can say about Intel's iGPUs. AMD also wraps a usable gaming platform in one *simple* and affordable package. The lack of need for an additional graphics card considerably simplifies things for some markets.Galidou - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - link
''for some market'' is quite an understatement. I'd say 90%+ of computer users don't need much, mainly do facebook/twitter/youtube/online flash games/other games that doesn't require much cpu/gpu power.frozen ox - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
Yawn. Thank you captain obvious, that might have been news two years ago. Meanwhile in 2013, AMD has launched Vishera, which are great for the money and more than makeup for Bulldozer's gaming performance. The next generation of consoles will now feature 8 core AMD APUs, so developers will be working with AMD and god help us more/better multi-threaded games, and this is a run-on sentence.gruffi - Thursday, March 7, 2013 - link
YOU should come back to reality. AMD made profits in the last years and decreased debts. The last 2 quarters are not everything. Bulldozer and Bobcat are great architectures. Better than the old and boring stuff the competition has to offer. Bulldozer just needs some improvements. Which isn't unnatural for an architecture from the ground up.johnsmith9875 - Thursday, March 14, 2013 - link
All AMD needed to do was shrink the 6-core Thuban die and slap 2 of them on a chip like the Q6600 was, and I would have bought it!Belard - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
For some odd reason... I was expecting:A) A rocket that was a PC being launched (like a car, that is launched such as on TopGear) - which if so, it should have windows 8 on it.
B) The Rocket Launching PC should be operational during a launch with the OS being used as the launch controller.
Flunk - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
I was expecting B as well. This is preitty much just a stunt, but I guess Ben didn't have that much time.Beenthere - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
...of time and money. AMD should pay me to build "interesting things" with their products. I'd do it for 1/2 the price.elmicker - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
So what does the PC actually do? If the launch controls and displays are all running off custom PCBs? You could do this for 1/10 the price and power consumption on a RasPi and still have it be a full PC! Imagine a PC that sets off fireworks when you win your games. Superb.IanCutress - Thursday, March 7, 2013 - link
It's still a full PC you have at your desk.SlyNine - Friday, March 8, 2013 - link
Except for a rocket to the face in a game and the computer actually sends a rocket to your face.yougotkicked - Wednesday, March 6, 2013 - link
Reminds me of when AMD hired Bill Owen to make a case for the phenom processor line launch. A solid marketing move IMO, draws more attention to their booth at shows and helps build a relationship between AMD and the enthusiast crowd. It may not make them more profitable, but it makes people as a bit less of an anonymous giant.egmccann - Tuesday, March 12, 2013 - link
Bit of fun marketing. Not sure why people are so busy pissing on it. That said - niche use, and quite obviously a different design... if you've ever looked into amateur (MUCH more involved - and expensive - than model) rocketry, I could see taking ideas from this into an actual single unit - especially if you've got data coming down from the rocket itself. I'd have to agree that the custom PCB controlling the launch and such makes this less a "PC mod" than "A PC attached to something that can launch small rockets," though.johnsmith9875 - Thursday, March 14, 2013 - link
When I was a kid all you needed was a motorcycle battery, some wire, a 6v light bulb, and single pole keyswitch and a SPST momentary pushbutton switch, and you had a rocket launching system, and we LIKED it!